Tarion Dodges Responsibility to Pay Claims for Poor Condo Construction

As the President of my Condo Board, it amazes me how Tarion dodges the responsibility to pay out claims. Here are a few examples:

1. Toxic gases in a new Condo because of a broken furnace? Tarion won’t protect you
We discovered toxic levels of CO2 emitting from the furnace in a new 3-year old condo.  Per Enbridge, the residents of this condo could have died from gas poisoning.

Tarion’s loop-hole to dodge payment:
Because the Builder rented the new home for 1 year before selling it, Tarion said this absolves them and the Builder of any liability. Tarion policies are valid for 7 years, yet when a new home is re-sold, Tarion cancels it; and they wont give you a refund for the unused difference.  Tarion Insurance Policies are not transferable to new unit owners.

Why this is dumb
Tarion is protecting themselves and the Builder. How? If the Builder builds a low quality house, the Builder can absolve himself of liability by renting the unit for as little as a day. This keeps the Builder from having to make any repairs should they be required.

Tarion loves this arrangement because it allows them to walk away from responsibility.  As Tarion’s coverage is a form of pre-paid insurance, it seems self-serving on their part that they can walk away from a policy they forced the customer to buy.

2. Is your balcony falling apart? Is your roof leaking? Tarion won’t cover it
Three years after the construction of our condo, the balconies are falling apart and the roof is leaking. One could argue that Tarion’s 7-year structural coverage would protect Owners and Boards from poor building construction. Not so.

Tarion’s loop-hole to dodge payment:
As Balconies and Roofs are Common Elements, liability and responsibility falls on the Property Manager and Unit Owners. Tarion dodges the bullet again!

Why this is dumb
 The Common Area is part of the Condominium. After all, one purchases it with the condo and it cannot be separated from the unit. The common area is an extension of the condo. If an Owner purchased home coverage to protect themselves against poor Builder quality, this protection should extend throughout the residential premise.

It seems that Tarion likes to use Rinky-dink condition to dodge responsibility. Considering they forced me to buy this insurance, they sure don’t seem to make much effort in protecting my best interest.  Seems like Tarion is acting like a monopoly.

3. Did your builder put in an unreliable HVAC system? Was the installation for your AC or Heater faulty? Tarion won’t cover it
In a small building of 24 units, most of our HVAC heating and cooling systems have failed. Inspectors have deemed our units as inadequate, poorly installed and much of the HVAC was not CSA certified at the time of the installation. From day 1, we reported this to Tarion and they did nothing. Problems today include flooding, toxic gas, rust out, back flow, poor electrical performance, etc. Does Tarion care? Does the City of Toronto Care? Does Enbridge? Does the TSSA? None of them do.

Tarion’s loop-hole to dodge payment:
If it works, even partly, the system is okay by Tarion

Why this is dumb
Even if there is a consensus among building professionals that your building was poorly built, Tarion will not help you.  Either they will shift the responsibility, do very little, or do nothing at all.   Tarion did nothing for us yet they collected $600 per unit for every new home.   Seems like a cash grab to me.

3 years since we took possession of our condo unit, our Builder continues to ignore the Order to Comply letters set out against him by the City of Toronto. In addition, Enbridge, the TSSA and the City of Toronto have found fault in the Builder’s construction.

Has Tarion helped us a bit? No, No, No.  Not a single pay out or work-order.

The Next time You Buy a Condo:
Don’ t count on Tarion. They tend to pass the buck as a matter of course and they will offer minimal help.

I will also add to not count on any governing bodies to make sure your new condo unit will be of immaculate quality, because no organization really cares that much. The City of Toronto, TSSA, Enbridge, and Tarion, all lack accountability.  They talk a good storm, but they do not deliver. Moreover, no single body can enforce repairs unless it goes to court.   Even then, what are the guarantees?  And legal costs are very expensive.

Canadians like to tout that we have a great legal system and building codes, but this pride is  misplaced. Good building craftsmanship begins with the builder. Building code enforcement is a weak way to insure good home construction quality. Moreover, the Legal system is no longer accessible to common people.  Everyday folks can no longer afford to resolve disputes in court.

Better stick with companies who have a reputation of excellence.

My best advice to anyone buying a condo: pay for a property inspector. Look at the furnace, look at the AC, access the brands for the HVAC systems.  Look to see that the AC compressor is installed in the correct place.  Talk to the Condo Board to get an impression of the issues in your building.  Look at all outstanding repairs.  Know what the monthly heating and cooling costs are for that unit. Pay the extra money to get a detailed inspection. Pay now or possibly pay much more later.

The building our Builder made is a lemon. Should you ever meet Gordon Wong in the GTA or Toronto, stay away and don’t purchase a condo or home from him.

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6 Responses to Tarion Dodges Responsibility to Pay Claims for Poor Condo Construction

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  2. As I have written http://askstevensilva.ca/2010/04/07/tarion-protection-is-worthless-without-knowing-how-to-use-it/ I noticed that many of the issues you are mentioning are after the 2 year period. It is imperative you discover deficiencies during the PDI or at the 30 day mark (when you are usually most likely not prepared to fin them). You only have 1 year to claim defects in workmanship. Common elements ARE covered under the warranty but it is the Board not the individuals that need to go after the builder. I can assure you if you know how to use the system Tarion will enforce the guidelines. Unfortunatly, most buyers don’t meet the deadlines, trust the builder too much, or don’t know enough to protect themselves.
    You are right, the system was designed by builders and is not too consumer freindly again if you follow the dealines there is coverage. I would also caution to read my article http://askstevensilva.ca/2011/08/05/what-home-inspectors-dont-tell-you/ in your case a standard home inspection would NOT have protected you. In any case having a guide like a realtor experienced in New Homes is recommended! Best of luck and contact me if you need some guidance through the system.

    • J oil says:

      Hi Steve
      Structural is up to 7 years of coverage
      My balcony and roof is being ignored because it is common area.

      If the unit is inhabitable, due to whatever reason, it s also covered by Tarion.
      Trouble is, the Builder rented this unit for 1 year. As a result, Tarion voids the home warranty protection that even the builder paid for. Pretty convenient for Tarion

      Finally, we have documentation and complaints on our HVAC system going back 3 years. Tarion didn’t help. Neither did TSSA, Enbridge, the City or the builder.

      Tarion needs to be regulated by the government because they are not diligent to protect consumers. I plan to follow up with a complaint to the Ombudsman regarding Tarion.

  3. While Structural is up to 7 years, you are right, short of the building falling down (and it think if needs to fall down FIRST), they won’t cover it. I pretty much ignore the New Home Warranty after the 2nd year.

    Leakage might seem like a structural issue but from a construction point of view, it is a water penetration issue and not covered under the structural warranty. Either the Condo Corp will need to repair that or the Builder depending on how good the Management is at going after the builder.

    Your right again, if the builder rents a unit the Tarion Warranty is void and it won’t matter how long back your documentation goes. Also even if it were covered by the New Home Warranty and you didn’t report those defects to Tarion with the proper forms it might not get covered. You basically bought re-sale without a warranty. Tarion does not protect builders from themselves. That is why if you build a home for yourself, it is not covered by the warranty. If the builder rented it out then they took possession of their own unit and if there is NO warranty. This should have been explained to you before you bought. You probably bought from a builders rep. who is not obligated under a code of ethics like Realtors are.

    Regarding your balcony. If it is a common element, you as an individual owner cannot make a claim because you don’t own it. You should bring it to the condo corp (of which you are president I understand) and have the Condo Corp go after the builder for the common elements as the Condo Corp is the owner of the common elements. How long has the building been registered for? It might still be covered… don’t give up! It is your job to push back. The builder must do a “PDI” for the Condo Corp too. Ask for a conciliation meeting if you need to but go through Tarion and Follow their guidelines if it isn’t too late for the common element areas.

    If the builder ever wants to build again, he will need to listen to Tarion but if you miss a deadline you may be SOL

  4. Michelle says:

    I agree on the common element front – get the board on that asap. I would suspect there may be underlying major structural defects (MSD) that haven’t been discovered yet if the balconies are already falling apart (apart from glass issues). Your board should probably seek legal advice – Tarion deadlines are pretty strict. If you miss them, you are usually out of luck. Not always, but usually.

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